Selling puppies

As a show breeder, can I refuse to sell puppies to homes that I don’t feel comfortable with because they have behavior or belief differences? Can I legally avoid selling to LGBTQ, Muslim, recent immigrants, etc.?


Many of you know that we are strong and committed evangelical Christians in this house. We’re very definitely not afraid of speaking out about issues that might be controversial or “not politically correct.” And we believe that the top priority for all breeders must be to ensure that each puppy goes to a home that is, above all, safe, predictable and consistent, supportive, and loving. We also think that it’s very important for owners to be compatible with us as breeders, so they will seek out our advice as the puppy grows and they need us to support them. So, having said that,


No, you colossally bigoted piece of caliginous junk. 



And if you try, I hope you get sued so hard you NEVER BREED AGAIN, you enormous used kleenex.

Peace out.

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  • Reply Dolores December 1, 2016 at 10:10 am

    Bravo!! Spoken like a true American..

  • Reply bestuvall December 1, 2016 at 10:44 am

    I had a breeder friend who had a 6 year old neutered male returned because the owner converted to Islam and no longer wanted the dog..which one was the bigot? I have denied many homes because of behavior.. want to sell to a drug addict? How about a home that will not show the dog on weekends due to religious beliefs and will not let you show the dog either and it is a key piece of your breeding program that you cannot keep for some reason. Of course you can.. you are not forced to sell your puppies to anyone that wants one..

    • Reply joannakimball December 1, 2016 at 10:55 am

      You may not refuse to sell to someone based on their disability status (drug addict in recovery, for example), on their religious beliefs, on their sexual orientation, or on the basis of any other protected status or class. If you do, you can AND SHOULD be sued. It’s also just plain terrible behavior and anyone even considering it should be ashamed of themselves.

    • Reply Abbe PB December 1, 2016 at 2:42 pm

      In the first situation, there is no bigot. Someone returned a dog because their life circumstances changed. They may have made a choice that resulted in the decision to return the dog, but unless the breeder demanded the dog be returned because the owner converted religion, there is nothing wrong with that.

      You can refuse to sell because you don’t believe someone will properly care for an animal. If someone appears to have extremely unrealistic expectations about the energy level of a dog who very obviously needs to go for a 3 mile run each day, and that person happens to use a wheelchair, then you can bring that up as a concern – not, “You’re in a wheelchair, you can’t have this dog,” but “This dog needs an extremely high level of attention and exercise, do you have a plan for how you will meet those needs?” (Maybe that person races and also goes for 3-5 mile journeys each day, you don’t know. Maybe they will hire a dog walker, or has someone else in the family who needs a running buddy.)

      You can absolutely turn down people because it’s a bad fit. They don’t understand the breed, they’re clearly unprepared, they’re not able to meet the dog’s needs, you can totally say, “I’m sorry, I really don’t think this is the right breed/puppy for you.” You can NOT say, “You’re in a wheelchair/on Prozac/deaf, so you can’t have a dog from me,” or “I won’t sell you a dog because you look like a dug addict/Muslim/gay.” That is unethical and horrible.

      • Reply KellyK October 7, 2017 at 8:37 pm

        Yes, absolutely. I think the non-bigoted analogy for the Muslim convert who gave up the dog is someone whose significant other turns out to be severely allergic. You want someone to do right by the dog, but you don’t really expect them to break up with the person they want to spend their life with, or ask that person to just take lots of allergy meds and hope they don’t die. A religious conversion is the same sort of thing. Yes, it’s a choice, but it’s such a major life thing that a reasonable person wouldn’t say, “Well, just don’t convert,” any more than they’d say, “If she’s allergic, just dump her. You had the dog first.”

        In Islam, like any other religion, there’s also a wide variety of beliefs and practices. Some Muslims keep dogs as pets; others don’t. Not having them inside the house seems to be a common thing. (If someone’s coming to you to get a dog, you can probably figure that they consider it acceptable in their religion to have a dog. So, even though it sucks that the guy converted and gave up his dog, that’s not a reason not to sell a dog to a totally different Muslim.)

  • Reply Beth December 1, 2016 at 5:22 pm

    There is no emoticon for “standing ovation” or I’d put that here. Right here. Because this. A thousand times this.

  • Reply Natalie December 1, 2016 at 5:27 pm

    Lovely to ‘hear’ from you again, and I’ll join Beth in applauding what you’ve said (mine might be a bit fainter as it’s travelling from the UK)

    Good wishes to you and yours.

  • Reply Jennifer Roberson December 1, 2016 at 5:44 pm

    I “vet” potential buyer with a ton of questions related to puppy care, home life, work schedule, other pets, etc.

    As a born-again Christian who believes in Christ’s teachings, which are all inclusive, I would NEVER refuse to sell to anyone on the basis of religion, sexual orientation, etc. If they pass all my checks and I am convinced it’s a great home, I will sell them a puppy.

    It should ONLY be about the puppy’s lifelong care and welfare.

  • Reply Indigo December 1, 2016 at 7:05 pm

    It is not clear if the question is asked on the basis of bigoted views or if the question is asked because belief differences may affect how the pup is treated. A breeder can refuse to sell to any home in the breed or the pup’s interest, or where they don’t feel able to provide proper support. Any other beliefs have nothing to do with it. And should not form part of the conversation, except to the extent relevant to how the dog will be treated. The end. I find ruffly speaking’s posts interesting and helpful, so have commented here because I am disappointed.

    • Reply joannakimball December 2, 2016 at 4:01 am

      If you, as a dog breeder, are assuming that belief systems or sexual orientation “may affect how the pup is treated,” then you ARE asking on the basis of bigoted views.

  • Reply michael romanos December 1, 2016 at 8:04 pm

    In New Zealand a dog breeder of any description can sell or not sell to whomever they wish for whatever reason.
    Many if not most serious breeders in NZ do not keep the breed of dog that they breed as family in-home pets so that some breeders are not the people to promote a loving home or a dog as a fully fledged family pet Many breeders simply do not have or know of a good feeding programme for a treasured dog. So often it is not the breeder whom one should seek advice from on how to raise , manage and care for a pup/adult dog.
    Hiving said that the idea of a prospective dog owner being untrustworthy towards a puppy or adult dog just because of their religion or ethnicity is highly questionable. The domestic dogs originated in East Asia some 14-15 thousand years ago , many Asians and Middle Easterns are fantastic dog lovers and owners. It is more likely that a quasi-christian religious group would treat their animals differently to the norm rather than an Islamic person . In NZ we do get a good number of dog show judges who are from Malaysia, Singapore, Indonesia and these are Islamic countries.

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